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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 94 00:17:03 PST
From: The Moderators <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Info-Mac Digest V12 #7
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Info-Mac Digest             Fri, 14 Jan 94       Volume 12 : Issue 7

Today's Topics:

      [*] 3pointplotters-c
      [*] Alice23b5.cpt
      [*] ClockAdjust12.hqx
      [*] comp.sys.mac.faq 2.2.3
      [*] crystal-ball-hc.hqx
      [*] CSM Miscellaneous FAQ list
      [*] dactyl.hqx
      [*] F1v11demo.sit
      [*] F1v11Updt.sit
      [*] Financial Portfolio 3.1 Post
      [*] Geo Converter v1.0
      [*] Gradebook v1.61
      [*] Hayes Modem Tool Color Pics
      [*] Mac system FAQ list submission
      [*] Mahjongg game
      [*] Monitor Expander submission
      [*] New Posting RDA 4.0
      [*] OmegaWindow 1.03
      [*] Pager Alarms 0.9 Description
      [*] Re: From AOL
      [*] Stretch Version 3.0
      [*] Suitcase 2.14p1 patcher
      [*] The Best Icon Set
      [*] three-d-functions-10-fpu-demo.hqx
      [*] VideoToolbox.94.1.12.sea
      [*] ZTerm 0.9 FAQ 1.6
      (fwd) newton.uiowa.edu to replace bnnrc-srv.med.jhu.edu as Newton archive
      site
      Advice Needed on Problem with Scaled Graphic.
      Axion Serial Splitter: Any snags?
      Bad F-Line (Summary Long)
      Ballpoint ink vs. Laser Printer (Q)
      Centris/Quadra 660AV video capabilities
      Clip Art of Canadian Provinces Wanted
      Color Font Editing
      Contact for Gold Disk
      Database help
      Dictionary on CD-ROM?
      Egyptian hieroglyphs? (Q)
      Fortran Structurer Anyone (Q)??
      Hardware Handshaking (Q)
      How can I get the "Software Dispatch" CD-ROM?(A)
      How do I use icons from Info-Mac archives?
      How to get latest MACtcp
      Internet In Israel
      Is there a "Print later..." utility ?
      LaCie Policy Continued (drives are disposable)
      LCD screens better for eyestrain?
      Looking for a terminal emulation package
      Looking for INITLoader or equivalent
      Macintosh's birthday
      Mirror UK IS Dealer from Hell - official
      More than 99 MB per app(R)
      Network schedulers????? (A)
      Optimem. What exactly does it do?
      Pathways and 840AV
      PB 145 ADB port
      PC application Availability
      PhotoShop plug-in for Apple Color One Scanner?
      POP3/SMTP gateway for PowerTalk
      Problem & Solution: PB160 HD doesn't work in PB100
      Problem with LineLink 144e modem
      Q650 turns itself off!
      Quadra 605 crash ( FPU related ? )
      RAM Serial Driver (S)
      Rebuilt Keyboard Source?
      Remapping Caps Lock to Control on PowerBooks:  Truly Impossible?
      Robert's Rules of Order
      SCSI Partition Map Invalid Problem
      SMTP for the MAC?
      Terminal Emulator, Anyone? (Q)
      TinCan/PCTrans protocol
      WAVE -> SND?
      WP 3.0 Patch (A)
      Wrefont 3.1 (Q)
      Xwindows on a Macintosh

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 13:23:46 -0800 (PST)
From: [e-mail] (Ken Long)
Subject: [*] 3pointplotters-c

Hello, there, MacGift Givers!

This file contains 3 Think C 5 projects.

1 "NewCube" which puts up a data window and a drawing window, then uses
point plots to draw an anitmated cube which rotates on two axis'.  It's
an update from an old .c file I found on the old BMUG BBS.

2 "NuCube" is a variation on the other done by Mark Hanrek, which adds a
more sophisticated Mac shell and includes a GWorld.

3 "NewShuttleViewer" is a Pascal to C port I did of "Eddy's Shuttle
Viewer, and improved upon it slightly.  The original and .p file is
included.  There's also a code fragment that can be added to draw the
coordinates where the points result over the window repeatedly as they
are generated.  The program draws a wire-frame Space Shuttle, ala point
plots, then erases, then draws a slightly rotated view, repeat ad infinity.

-Ken-

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/src/three-point-plotters-c.hqx; 86K]

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 21:57:27 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Eric Hoffmann)
Subject: [*] Alice23b5.cpt

Alice 2.3b5 is an offline FidoNet/.QWK/.XRS mail reader that works on your
Mac. Originally Alice was designed as an .XRS reader. XRS is a format
supported by many bulletin board systems that run on DOS computers, and it
offers similar capabilities to a full-blown Point system. Then Michael
Keller added support for the .QWK format, which is also a very popular
offline option for DOS boards. In both cases, message packets were
downloaded from the BBS using your regular communications software and then
read offline using Alice. Replies would be uploaded during the next online
session. The host BBS had to offer XRS or QWK offline options before Alice
could be used. Now, with the addition of a small program called "T2," which
is included in this archive, Alice can work in conjunction with the
freeware Fido mailer Charon 0.985, or with the shareware mailer F1, to form
a complete Macintosh FidoNet Point system. The last complete manual for
Alice was contained in the 2.1.4e release. This version (2.3b5) is the
current beta release and it fixes a number of bugs in earlier releases, as
well as adding numerous features. Alice is System 7.1 savvy. Shareware.

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/alice-23b5.hqx; 642K]

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 94 08:22:46 +0100
From: Guenther Blaschek <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] ClockAdjust12.hqx

This is a resubmission of ClockAdjust 1.2.

I have been told that the ClockAdjust documentation in the archives
was corrupted. This file contains the documentation in PostCard format.
The control panel itself has not changed. You don't need to download it
if you already know how it works.

ClockAdjust is a control panel for correcting the Mac's clock. It improves
the exactness of the clock and automatically switches to/from daylight
savings time.

ClockAdjust is FREE.
  e  Guenther Blaschek, University of Linz, Austria
 gu  E-Mail: <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/clock-adjust-12.hqx; 39K]

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 17:36:38 -0600
From: Rusty Harold <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] comp.sys.mac.faq 2.2.3

MACINTOSH FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
====================================

comp.sys.mac.faq, part 1:
Introduction to the Macintosh Newsgroups
Copyright 1994 by Elliotte Harold
Version: 2.2.3
Last-modified: January 8, 1994


What's new in version 2.2.3:
 ---------------------------

    The tables of contents have been adjusted to reflect changes in the
    other FAQ's and the release of the FAQ list for comp.sys.mac.wanted.

    3.6: What is .bin?  .hqx?  .cpt?  .image? .etc.?

     StuffIt is now at version 3.0.7.


    4.4: Zap the PRAM and Reset the Clock

     I now give a more complete list of which Control Panels zapping
     the PRAM will affect.

[Archived as /info-mac/info/comp-sys-mac-general-faq-223.txt; 63K]

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 01:18 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Darrell Anderson)
Subject: [*] crystal-ball-hc.hqx

Attached in Binhex format is "Crystal Ball 2.1", a cool magic 8-ball
emulator (you ask it a yes/no question and it gives you an answer).

Enjoy!
-Darrell Anderson
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/game/crystal-ball-21-hc.hqx; 84K]

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 11:40:27 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Peter S. Mcphee)
Subject: [*] CSM Miscellaneous FAQ list

The following is the latest version of the FAQ list for comp.sys.mac.misc.
Enjoy.

[Archived as /info-mac/info/csm-miscellaneous-faq-223.txt; 54K]

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 17:08:16 -0600 (CST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] dactyl.hqx

A short and small QuickTime movie of the Dactyl playing field.  The
DACTYL2.PLG was used with permission from Todd Porter.

Rendered using ViviStar Consulting's Qd3d/3dPane and SmartPane source
code libraries.

After decompression, movie can be played with QuickTime for Macintosh
or Windows.

[Archived as /info-mac/grf/qt/dactyl.hqx; 776K]

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 09:06:33 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Eric Hoffmann)
Subject: [*] F1v11demo.sit

This Demo of Formula One v1.1 is fully functional but has these limits:

- The application will expire after March '94
- F1 will make only one call during a event
- A session cannot be longer than 10 to 15 minutes (random value)

Formula 1 is a communication module ("mailer") that improves the
performance of FidoNet point or BBS programs. F1 can be used as a
replacement for the TabbyNet and Call modules of Tabby and Copernicus, and
it can also be used with CounterPoint, MacWoof, and Alice.

This is what F1 improves:
- Full support of EMSI, WaZoo and FTS-0001 protocols.
- File transfers with ZedZap and ZedZip with crash recovery!
- Full support of high speed modems:
    - serial speed up to 57600 baud
    - hardware handshake
- Support for all the devices and tools registered with the  Communication
Toolbox.

Points:
- 4D or 5D address (uses fakenet if the boss requires it)

Massimo Senna
via Calchi 5
27100 PAVIA ITALY

Fidonet 2:331/313.1
Compuserve      71531,32
AppleLink       ITA0245
Internet        [e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/formula1-11-demo.hqx; 312K]

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 09:01:53 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Eric Hoffmann)
Subject: [*] F1v11Updt.sit

F1 updater - updates a registered version of 1.0.3 to 1.1. Formula 1 is a
communication module ("mailer") that improves the performance of FidoNet
point or BBS programs. F1 can be used as a replacement for the TabbyNet and
Call modules of Tabby and Copernicus, and it can also be used with
CounterPoint, MacWoof, and Alice.

This is what F1 improves:
- Full support of EMSI, WaZoo and FTS-0001 protocols.
- File transfers with ZedZap and ZedZip with crash recovery!
- Full support of high speed modems:
    - serial speed up to 57600 baud
    - hardware handshake
- Support for all the devices and tools registered with the  Communication
Toolbox.

Points:
- 4D or 5D address (uses fakenet if the boss requires it)

Hardware Requirements:
F1 works on any Macintosh with at least 2MBytes of RAM and System 7.0 or
later. If you use the hardware-handshake settings, you need a suitable
cable. Before going on with the installation of F1 you must install the
software you want to use with the mailer, then you must copy Formula 1 and
F1 Setup in the same folder as the other Tabby, Copernicus, CounterPoint or
MacWoof applications.

Massimo Senna
via Calchi 5
27100 PAVIA ITALY

Fidonet 2:331/313.1
Compuserve      71531,32
AppleLink       ITA0245
Internet        [e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/formula1-103-to-11-updt.hqx; 334K]

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 07:36:09 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Monty Hampton)
Subject: [*] Financial Portfolio 3.1 Post

PLease find enclosed the latest version of Financial Portfolio (V3.1). It
is a Hypercard stack (currently in .sit format) which allows you to tract a
variety of investments. I am not the author, but use the stack and highly
recommend it. I downloaded it from AOL and am posting it with the author's
permission. The author's ReadMe file is below. Enjoy!

EMH


The Financial Portfolio stack lets you keep track of your accounts &
investments and allows you to calculate your net worth, capital gains, etc.
This is a major revision to the last version uploaded to America OnLine
(version 2.8). If you own previous versions of the stack (2.1 and above),
you can import the information.

New features include:
- a redesigned interface with new pop-up menus for navigation
- customizable categories and assignment of details to those categories
- integrated Help in a windoid-no separate Help stack needed
- a customizable floating palette for commonly-used functions
- unlimited number of user-defined reports in addition to several built-in
reports
- numerous obvious and behind-the-scenes functional enhancements

Please take advantage of the Help screens available in most areas of the
stack. These will explain the use and features of the stack.

Requirements:
1) HyperCard 2.1 (I haven't tested the stack with the HyperCard Player)
     - please assign at least 1600K to the application with the "Get Info"
dialog
    (2000K or more may be even better)
2) Put the "oPortfolio resourceso" stack in the same folder as the main
Financial Portfolio stack; if you don't, you will be asked with a dialog
box to search for it if it is required (see below.)
3) This stack makes extensive use of WindowScript (version 1.3 used), a
HyperCard add-on from Heizer Software that allows the creation of custom
windows and dialog boxes. If you own WindowScript and have it installed in
the hierarchy, the stack will ignore the WindowScript resources in the
"oPortfolio resourceso" stack and use those in your own WindowScript stack.
If you've never heard of WindowScript before, you obviously don't have it
installed; in this event, the stack will automatically place the
"oPortfolio resourceso" stack in the hierarchy upon opening and remove it
upon closing.

This program is "kidware": if you use it, please send me a dollar (or more)
to the address below and I will forward it to St. Jude Children's Research
Hospital (the late Danny Thomas' pet project). If you would like to send a
check directly to St. Jude's, mail it to St. Jude Children's Research
Hospital, P.O. Box 1818, Memphis, TN   38101-9903; if you do so, please
drop me a line to let me know.

Michael Foreman
19 Gardenia Drive
Mount Laurel, NJ   08054

[Archived as /info-mac/app/financial-portfolio-31-hc.hqx; 268K]

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 10:49:31 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Ken Hill)
Subject: [*] Geo Converter v1.0

GEO CONVERTER translates between two map coordinate systems,
longitude/latitude and Universal Transverse Mercator (UTM). Stuffed and
binhexed.

Ken Hill
email:  [e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/sci/geo-converter-10.hqx; 65K]

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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 20:04:49 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Jim Witte)
Subject: [*] Gradebook v1.61

This is Gradebook v1.61, which fixes a bug in the shareware registration
sequence. Sorry for any inconveniences.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/gradebook-161-hc.hqx; 175K]

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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 20:21:11 +0500
From: [e-mail] (Ken Linger)
Subject: [*] Hayes Modem Tool Color Pics

Here is just something I did the other night.  I "colorized" the pictures
in the Hayes Modem Tool.  These are the pictures that show up while it is
dialing out or receiving a call.

I don't expect anyone to pass out from the briliance of these pictures, but
I just figured that if anyone else was annoyed at the black and white-ness
of the Hayes Modem Tool, then they could use this.

Actually, I'm not sure if anyone still uses this as much as I do.  I've
never been able to get the Apple Modem Tool to work just right with my Zoom
14.4 Fax.  Perhaps the HMT is outdated; alas though, I'm digressing.

To install:  double click the enclosed HMT Color resedit file.  While in
resedit, open your current Hayes Modem Tool and copy the resource from my
file to yours.  It seems to work without rebooting or anything, but
remember, some comm programs load the tool at startup, so if one is
running, you may need to quit and restart the application to notice any
changes.

If you feel I missed something, you think I have bad taste in colors, or
you have suggestions on what I better use my free time to do,  let me know.
My address is [e-mail].

And, in case it wasn't obvious, feel free to distribute at will.

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/hayes-tool-color-patch.hqx; 9K]

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 11:40:24 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Peter S. Mcphee)
Subject: [*] Mac system FAQ list submission

This is the latest version of the FAQ list for comp.sys.mac.system.
Enjoy.

[Archived as /info-mac/info/sft/csm-system-faq-222.txt; 37K]

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 01:12:29 EST
From: Keith Rettig <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Mahjongg game

Here is the copy of MacJong V0.20 that I agreed to send.  I would be
most appreciative of anyone who can translate the score sheet and the
instruction screen.  Also, if anybody can figure out how to win the
game without having to play each "book" singly, please tell me!

I had mentioned that I would be willing to help someone redesign or
improve a Mahjongg game.  My intention is not to be the driving force in
this endeavor.  I would not know the first thing in programming a Mac game.
But I can color, draw, test, and the such.  In other words, I wouldn't mind
being a "little helper"!!!!!  Possibly a collaborative effort from many????

The game is right behind this mailing.  It has been BinHexed and compressed
by Stuffit Deluxe 3.06.

Happy playing and may the East winds calm your dragon.
Please recycle.

From: "Keith Rettig" <[e-mail]>

[Archived as /info-mac/game/crd/mac-jong-20.hqx; 119K]

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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 94 19:08:13 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Sigurdur Asgeirsson)
Subject: [*] Monitor Expander submission

  Monitor Expander is a control panel that replaces the video drivers
for some Apple video cards, allowing you to increase your desktop size
in a similar fashion as MaxAppleZoom, but with greater possibilities.
Supported desktop range from the conventional 640 x 480, upto a
staggering 1952 x 2048, which is a thirteen-fold increase in desktop
area. The supported video cards at this time are the so called Toby Card
and the High Resolution Video Card. Those are the cards that shipped
with most color Macs upto the IIci or so.
  Monitor Expander is $25 shareware, copyright 1993-1994 Sigurdur
Asgeirsson ([e-mail]).

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/monitor-expander-10.hqx; 51K]

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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 20:30:02 -0700
From: [e-mail] (BRYANT AUSTIN)
Subject: [*] New Posting RDA 4.0

Could you please post the latest version of RDA (Random Dot Autostereograms).
It is completely functional (no disabled functionality) and has a new
function called profile. Profile works only with the Z buffer information,
so an RDA must be generated before using it.
Following is the file:

[Archived as /info-mac/grf/util/random-dot-autostereograms-40.hqx; 134K]

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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 22:31:16 -0700 (MST)
From: "Hyo E. Ahn, Los Alamos National Laboratory" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] OmegaWindow 1.03

OmegaWindow 1.03 is a mouse-free window manipulating and application managing
program for Apple Macintosh. OmegaWindow provides keyboard shortcuts for things
that normally have to be done using the mouse.  The heart of the OmegaWindow
package is a system extension. The package also includes an application for
customizing OmegaWindow's features. Currently OmegaWindow has the following
features implemented using keyboard shortcuts:

 - Move and resize windows:  works with any zoomable window.
 - Zoom window.
 - Close one or all of the windows.
 - Bring the back-most window to the front.
 - Send the front-most window to the back.
 - Swap the two front-most windows.
 - Hide/Show the front-most window (Up to 7).
 - Hide/Show the front-most application.
 - Switch to the next or previous application.
 - Go to the Finder.
 - Switch from one application to another:  allows direct switching
   to other applications.
 - Activate a specific window:  when bringing an application to the
   front you can select a window to be brought to the front with the
   application.
 - Automatically hide windows belonging to other applications.

System requirements

 - System 7 minimum.
 - Macintosh Plus or higher.

If you find bugs, have comments, or want to see any new features added to
OmegaWindow, please report it to me by E-Mail (Internet:
[e-mail],
America Online: HyoAhn) or by regular mail (Hyo E. Ahn, 600 San Ildefonso Rd.
#142, Los Alamos, NM 87544, U.S.A.).    Thanks.

Bugs fixes:

Version 1.03 (1/11/94)

  -Version 1.02 introduced a critical bug which have the system to crash
frequently.  It also made the customized settings from OmegaWindow application
not to work until the Mac gets restarted.   All these problems are corrected in
version 1.03.

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/omega-window-103.hqx; 233K]

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 23:45:25 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Pager Alarms 0.9 Description

Keywords: PAGER ALARM MODEM DAY DATE

This is a beta stack (version 0.9) being used as a prototype for an
application
which we will be writing soon.  I would appreciate all input on this system.

Please E-Mail to either DarrylW4 (on AOL) or [e-mail] (from the
InterNet).
This stack is not protected so that people can hack around the scripts.  If
you
make changes however, I would like to see your work.

REQUIREMENTS:
Macintosh which could run this stack in the background
HyperCard 2.0 or better
Almost any AT compatible modem (in the modem port)
An available line with touch-tone dialing
Numeric pager(s)

DESCRIPTION:
This stack allows the user to set-up auto pages.  These "alarms" could dial
any
number and send any message. These alarms are activated by at a certain time
by
either day (S,M,T,W,T,F,S) or a date.
NEW for 0.9!  There is now wait options which should help those with voice
mail,
longer tones, or any other factors in the wait between dialing and sending
the
page.
(We also hid a couple of Easter Eggs in there for those who like to search.)

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/pager-alarms-09.hqx; 19K]

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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 22:11:09 -0500
From: Anselmo Lastra <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Re: From AOL

This is a program to help play the board game Diplomacy. It is sent as
a self-extracting archive in BinHex format.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/brd/diplomacy-aid.hqx; 329K]

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 11:20:19 -0600
From: Gregg Goyins <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Stretch Version 3.0

Stretch Version 3.0 _ 1991-1993 Ross Tyler

This is shareware. Please send $10 to

Ross Tyler
759 Santa Fe Ct.
San Dimas, CA 91773

Features:
Stretches your windows from any side or corner.
Iconifies and restores your windows.
IconBox application stores icons of all other windows in compact scrollable
window.

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/stretch-30.hqx; 157K]

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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 22:04:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Rauschelbach <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Suitcase 2.14p1 patcher

This SEA contains the patcher for Suitcase 2.1.4 to fix some problems
with the AV macs (840 and 660). It also contains some programming
information for a Suitcase related bug in the Think Class Library.

Reposted from Compu$erve

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/suitcase-214p1-updt.hqx; 49K]

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 11:19:43 -0600
From: Andrew Bell <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] The Best Icon Set

[Some very well rendered (PhotoShop 2.5) icons of video game characters and
 a few others.  --isl]

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/grf/andrews-icons.hqx; 120K]

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 20:42:45 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Hussam A Dandashli)
Subject: [*] three-d-functions-10-fpu-demo.hqx

3-D Functions 1.0 Demo (FPU)
Visualization of Functions in 3-D Space

Functions of two variables are difficult to reproduce on paper because they
exist
 in 3-D space. "3-D Functions"  supplies the user with different functions to
choose
 from, to add or multiply up to 10 function combinations into a special
function.
Also supplied is a bunch of preset functions and one nested function.

An example of an assembled function is...
f(x,y) = 3.1(F)(1 + 2x + x^2 + y + y^2 + 2x^1.2*y^2) + or * up to 10 similar
functions
 where (F) could be one of... sin(), cos(), tan(), exp(), log(), log10(),
sinh(), cosh(),
tanh(), or a polynomial (same as contents of bracket).

An example of a nested function is...
f(x,y) = 2 (F1)( 2x + 3 (F2)(3y) ). Again (F1) and (F2) can be any of the above
functions.

An example of the preset functions (that are enabled for the demo version)...
sin/cos(x)*sin/cos(y), sin/cos(xy), exp( -x^2 - y^2), sin/cos(x + sin/cos(y)).

This application will plot the function of two variables which would be a
surface
in 3-D space, and the user can rotate, modify, refine the mesh, use colors/gray

scale patches, etc...

System requirements
      System 7.x with Color QuickDraw installed. (might run on earlier system)
      Will require a FPU or a software FPU to run.

This demo version has the same options as the full version but with the preset
 functions as the only ones allowed, in an effort to demonstrate the
capabilities
 of the application.

For more information please refer to the user manual included.

                Hussam Dandashli
               [e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/sci/three-d-functions-10-fpu-demo.hqx; 244K]

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 11:44:01 -0600
From: "Denis Pelli" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] VideoToolbox.94.1.12.sea

VideoToolbox.94.1.12.sea
January 12, 1994

The VideoToolbox is a collection of two hundred C subroutines and several demo
and utility programs that I and others have written to do visual psychophysics
with Macintosh computers. It's free and may not be sold without permission. It
should be useful to anyone who wants to present accurately specified visual
stimuli or use the Mac for psychometric experiments.

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/src/video-toolbox-94-01-12-c.hqx; 1575K]

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 11:17:14 -0600
From: Les Jones <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] ZTerm 0.9 FAQ 1.6

This file answers many Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs)
about ZTerm 0.9. All ZTerm users should read the FAQ
before sending questions to Dave Alverson. Besides
answering questions, the FAQ contains tips, bug reports,
and ResEdit hacks.

Changes since the last version:

bug:  Phone number field
bug:  VT100 emulation
Q?:   Why can't I download a damn thing?
Q?:   How can I make ZModem binary downloads from UNIX more reliable?
Q?:   How can I edit the colors ZTerm uses for ANSI graphics?
Q?:   How can I emulate function keys on a PowerBook?
Q?:   How can I use the numeric keypad for entering numbers?
Tip:  Creating a folder for scripts.

Many sections have been updated. In particular, the directions
for changing ZTerm's terminal font are more clear. The
directions also note that changing the font seems to limit the
display to 40 or so columns. If anyone knows a workaround for
this problem, please let me know.

P.S. Dave Alverson says that ZTerm 1.0 will be released
during the first quarter of 1994.

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/info/zterm-faq-19.txt; 68K]

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 13:10:36 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (fwd) newton.uiowa.edu to replace bnnrc-srv.med.jhu.edu as Newton
archive site

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.announce
Subject: newton.uiowa.edu to replace bnnrc-srv.med.jhu.edu as Newton archive
site
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Effective immediately, the archive site at Johns Hopkins University will be
replaced by newton.uiowa.edu, located at the University of Iowa. The file
structure will be similar to the JHU site, with a few additions.

Robert Bruce, moderator of the JHU site, will assist David Rarick in
maintaining the new site.  New files may be uploaded to /submissions. These
files will be placed in /pub/newton.

Although the archive site is not currently mirroring any other sites, it is
likely that other popular sites will be found here in the near future.

Over the next two weeks, the ftp software will be customized to ensure ease
of use.  If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions please direct
them to me at [e-mail] or David at [e-mail].

--
Ric Mommer ([e-mail])  |  If you find a job you love, you'll
Second Look Computing              |  never have to work another day in
University of Iowa                 |  your life.                -unknown
--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---
Posted by Michael Nowak, Cider Mill Software
 mail: [e-mail]
       [e-mail]
phone: [phone]

Send comp.sys.newton.announce inquiries
 to [e-mail].

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Date: 13 Jan 1994 17:06:15 +0000 (GMT)
From: "F.J. Lalor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Advice Needed on Problem with Scaled Graphic.

A scanned etching (OneScanner/Ofoto) pasted full-size into a Word 5
document is almost indistinguishable from the original. When scaled
to 44% of the original the contrast changes dramatically - but I can
live with that. What I cannot live with are the fine horizontal
white lines which occur at unequal (but apparently systematic)>intervals
>From top to bottom of the graphic. Can anyone explain what
is causing this and - more importantly - how to avoid the problem?
Incidentally if the original Ofoto image is scaled 44% *before* the
cut/paste operation there are no white lines on the pasted image in
Word but the overall quality is atrocious.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Fergus Lalor, Chemistry Dept., University College, Cork, Ireland.
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 22:23:36 +0000
From: Francis Knight <[e-mail]>
Subject: Axion Serial Splitter: Any snags?

Hello Netters,

    The only downer about being 'on-net' from home is that I have to keep
swapping the serial leads of my modem and ancient HP DeskWriter. (I have
LocalTalk in the other port.) After all, the connectors in the back of my
SE/30 have a finite life in terms of mating cycles.
    I've been toying with the idea of getting a device I've seen
advertised, known as an Axion Serial Splitter. This gives you three output
sockets in a (stylish!) pod on the end of a short serial lead.
    I've never seen them mentioned here before, so I'd like to ask if
anyone is using one, and if it has revealed any shortcomings. I'm
particularly interested in using it with hardware handshaking to my Global
Village Teleport Gold.

    I'll summarise if there's interest.

Cheers,
Francis K.

Francis K.

At a Mac Oasis Somewhere in Suburban Hertfordshire

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Date: 12 Jan 1994 15:17:34 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Bauer)
Subject: Bad F-Line (Summary Long)

I tried mailing the following to info-mac, but the mail was returned, my
apologies if this appears twice (I'm now posting directly to
comp.sys.mac.digest):

A week or two ago I posted a 'cry for help' because I was getting frequent
crashes, freezes and failed start-up's all of which produced a non-modal
dialog box announcing a "bad f-line error finder".  I also had a problem with
failed shut-downs & restarts in which the finder would simply cycle without
shutting down (or restarting).  That was a separate post.

I received _many_ replies, over three-quarters of which were people having the
same problem!  A few of the replies had helpful information and I did solve
the problems.  Therefore I am summarizing some of the helpful replies back to
the net.  If I have neglected to include any reply, my apologies in
advance to
the writer, I've just selected a couple that summarized the situation
well.
Also, if I failed to respond to anyone, I also apologize.  It's a reflection
on my disorganization

Allan Bloom wrote:

Jonathan, that message almost invariably means an extension problem. You
have an extension that is not System-7 compatible. Or you have a conflict
between otherwise compatible extensions.

Not much for it except to turn off your extensions, one at a time, and
see which is (are) the culprit(s). I use a binary search myself, turn
off half. If the problem persists, the culprit is in the ones you left
on.

[e-mail] provided this comprehensive reply:

The bad F-line is due to numerous problems:
On the LC and LC-II it has been caused by an overload of the the processor
chip as there is a 16bit BUS on a 32bit CPU.  This means a logjam of
information trying to get to the CPU.  This occurs during 32bit
addressing,
conflict of extensions, or an unclean desktop file.  On 68040 macs the
error
is usually due to an incompatibility with the Cache system of the 68040.

Once you have isolated the appliction the Bad F-line error
occurs most frequently try one of the following solutions to get rid of
the
Bad F-line error, Extensions off, 32bit addressing off, rebuilding the
desktop, or zapping the PRAM.

To turn off extensions, simply hit the SHIFT key on
startup until the startup screen tells you extensions are off.  No ill
side-effects will be seen from this cure except that any files in the
Extensions Folder will be disabled.

32bit addressing and your Cache is controled by the
Memory Control Panel.

To clean the desktop file hit the Apple and Option key
simultaneously on startup until the desktop requests if you want it
rebuilt.
Comments on the Get Info will be erased when you "Rebuild your desktop".

In addition your PRAM may have gotten faulty settings.  To "Zap your PRAM"

hit Apple, Option, P, and R keys simultaneously on startup.  This will
reset
your Control Panels to factory settings.

Finally the problem may be due to a lack of a Math Coprocessor.  There is
Software-FPU at sumex-aim.stanford.edu through FTP or Gopher.  This is a
great
program to help run Math Coprocessor-lacking machines.

[e-mail] agreed with the above that this problem was caused by an
init conflict and added:

In my case, I was having all kinds of problems.  They seemed to stem from
the Newer Technlogy Quadra 700 Overdrive I had.  I returned the overdrive
and haven't seen a bad F-line instruction since.

Regarding shut-down/restart problems, [e-mail] (Bo Holst-
Christensen) wrote:

Sounds like a disk or SCSI problem.

I have seen similar symptoms in a few situations. I have a few suggestions
you can try out:

2. An extension, or shutdown routine is trying to do something on the
drive, after it has been unmounted. Try booting without extensions/startup
applications, and leave the machine running a few hours, without starting
any applications. If the problem disappears, this may be the reason. You
then have to find the guilty piece of software.

3. The driver on the drive may be trying to park the drives heads too soon,
resulting in the CPU waiting forever for the drive to come back on, to do
the finishing touches. Start the driver installation software and check if
the driver software has an option to turn this off.

4. The boot blocks, driver, system or partition map on the drive has been
corrupted. Try replacing these (one at a time).

5. System 7, VM or 32bit incompatibility in the driver software. This
should only be the case with old drivers, most newer (after 1991) drivers
should not have any problems. If you have old driver software, try
replacing the driver with a newer driver.

6. Hardware failure in the SCSI interface on the CPU or most likely the
drive. Try replacing the drive :-(

Finally, someone suggested that shut-down/restart problems may be caused
by a
battery running down (the timing is right for me, I have a IIfx).  As it
turned out, I had an init with a bug which was causing conflicts and corrupted
my finder.  Reinstalling system software eliminated the 'bad f-line' problem,
but the shut-down problem persisted.  I ran a useful utility 'DiskCheck'
(comes with and requires AlSoft's DiskExpress II) which diagnosed 'bad boot
blocks' and 'missing extent' or 'bad extent' (don't know what any of that
means so maybe I copied the information incorrectly).  In any case, Norton
Utilities fixed it.

Hope this helps someone else.

Jonathan ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 19:01:28 PST
From: [e-mail] (David Sasaki)
Subject: Ballpoint ink vs. Laser Printer (Q)

 I am laserprinting on the back of paper that has been previously
 laser printed.  Some of this used paper has small amounts of editing
 done in ball-point pen or a narrow felt tip.  Will the heat from the
 laser printer cause the ballpoint or felt tip ink to harm the printer in
 any way?  The printer is an Apple Personal NTR; the paper is 20 lb
 copier paper.  I will summarize if there is interest.

 Thanks,
--
David Sasaki      [e-mail]   |  "Long live Dvorak!!"
           or [e-mail]  |  (the keyboard, I mean)

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 12:00:39 +0100
From: Jean-Claude Arnouil <[e-mail]>
Subject: Centris/Quadra 660AV video capabilities

   My 660av is just out of the box and here are my first observations.

   Waiting for enough money to buy the excellent Apple 16" monitor, I've
"hooked" a Sun GDM-1662B following the instructions provided by Denny Gentry
last year (see info-mac/info/hdwr/sun-color-monitor-hookup.hqx).

   Now I've my 660av thinking he have an Apple 21" monitor connected. The
picture tube is only 16" wide so everything looks smaller but it is very
usable.

   Here comes the troubles:

   As the 660 has "only" 1Mb of VRAM, it can provide "only" 256 colors on an
21", what is acceptable for most work. But if I bought a 660av, you could
imagine I want to play with her video input capabilities.



   I can't display any color video with the monitor application in this mode
(21"- 256 colors) which seems to be explained by the fact that the VRAM is
shared between the graphics and the video window.

   I need to reduce the depth to 16 or 4 colors for freeing some VRAM which
could be use for the video window.

   Then I discover an interesting feature: in the monitor control panel there
are 4 choices for the screen size:


    21" Apple color monitor
    512x384
    640x480
    768x576

    The last three choices are to be used when you want to output the video to
a TV or a VCR, but if you select one of them and restart, you got a window of
that size on the 21" monitor (centered on the screen with black outside). Now
in the 640x480 mode you can have a 16 bit depth (thousand colors). According to
the technical information provided with my Mac, in the 512x384 mode I should be
able to display millions colors, YES MILLIONS !!!!

    Here are the table found in the Apple documentation:

Monitor        Resolution   Graphics Only       Graphics + Video    Comments

12" color       512x384         24 bpp            16 bpp + 16 bpp  YES 24 bpp
!
12" color       560x384         24 bpp            16 bpp + 16 bpp
12" mono        640x480          8 bpp             8 bpp +  8 bpp
12" color       512x384         24 bpp            16 bpp + 16 bpp       or VGA

13/14" color    640x480         16 bpp             8 bpp + 16 bpp

13/14" color    640x400         24 bpp            16 bpp + 16 bpp  400 Vertical
15" portrait    640x870          8 bpp             4 bpp +  8 bpp
16" color       832x624         16 bpp             8 bpp + 16 bpp
19" color      1024x768          8 bpp             4 bpp +  8 bpp
21" color      1152x870          8 bpp             4 bpp +  8 bpp
Super VGA       800x600         16 bpp             8 bpp + 16 bpp
NTSC            512x384         16 bpp            16 bpp + 16 bpp  underscan
NTSC Convol     512x384          8 bpp             8 bpp + N/A

NTSC            640x480         16 bpp             8 bpp + 16 bpp  overscan
NTSC Convol     640x480          8 bpp             8 bpp + N/A

PAL             640x480         16 bpp             8 bpp + 16 bpp  underscan
PAL  Convol     640x480          8 bpp             8 bpp + N/A

PAL             768x576         16 bpp             8 bpp + 16 bpp  overscan
PAL  Convol     768x576          8 bpp             8 bpp + N/A


  N/A: Non Available
  Convol = Convolution = flicker reduction



   I'm sure the above table will interest some of you, specially the fact that
the 660av seems to be 24 bits capable (in very small resolution, I agree !!).

   Does someone as more information about those capabilities ??

   Perhaps designers of the video hardware of the AV Macs could clarify this as

Dale Adams did in /info-mac/info/hdwr/centris-quadra-800-video.txt.

   Thank you in advance and excuse me for this long posting ...

   Jean-Claude

--
Jean-Claude Arnouil         Unix Systems Administrator
Ecole Superieure d'Electrotechnique et d'Electronique

email: [e-mail]  phone:[phone]
BP 99 - 93162 Noisy-le-Grand  CEDEX -  FRANCE

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 11:18:57 -0800 (PST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Clip Art of Canadian Provinces Wanted

[This request was previously posted in "Desktop Publishing digest" but
elicited only one response.  I'm hoping that the wider circulation in
the Info-Mac Digest will garner a few more.]

I am looking for moderately-priced collections of good quality PICT
or, preferably, 256-gray EPS clip art depicting Canadian provinces
other than British Columbia. (I already have a very good B.C.
collection called "B.C. Scapes".)

I want collections that include provincial flags, flowers, birds,
animals, maps, and other buildings or scenes that unmistakably
identify the province of origin.

However, _any_ leads would be very much appreciated.  (E.g.,
collections of clip-art for states bordering the 49th might well
have _some_ useful images.)

Reply directly to me, and I will summarize in a few days.

Thank you, one and all.

--
Jay Handel
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 09:32:41 +0000
From: Clark Riley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Color Font Editing

I just catching up with my InfoMac Digests and I saw the note asking about
color font editing and figured I'd reply, though I may be embarrassed by
revelattions from later replies.  If I don't do it now, who knows when I may
get to it.
     Basically, there are no color font editors yet.  Anthony Saxton, who
heroically did the initial color fonts, did it all in ResEdit.  I can E-Mail
you his publicly available techniques if you don't have them and want them.
It's not easy, but the results are obviously nice.  Keep in mind that these
are all color BITMAPS.  No program does color with outline fonts.  Thus, every
size must be done by hand.  I am SLOWLY working on an editor.  I have it to
the point where I can see the entire bitmap of any font, including color fonts
(thank you, Anthony for that) and can display that information.  I am
currently out of time for continuing on to the editing stage.  I can send you
the work-in-progress if you are interested.  I will keep at it.  I just don't
know how long it will take.

clark riley, baltimore

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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 1994 01:24:36 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Contact for Gold Disk

Hi netters,  Does anyone have the contact (fax & E-mail) for
Gold Disk the publishers of Astound presentation package? The
800 number in ther Ad doesn't do international users any good.

Thanks
Mike

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 10:51:48 -0500 (EST)
From: MY KARMA RAN OVER MY DOGMA <[e-mail]>
Subject: Database help

Hi:
I work for a small university in the training department, where we train emplo-
yees.  We have purchased Helix Express in order to set up a database of the
classes, registration for training, and employee training records.  I don't
wantto build the database from scratch, since I want to avoid all the mistakes
I would make in this learning mode.  I would like to model the database after
an
existing one, so I may concentrate on our database's unique needs, and not
worry about overlooking some important item.  Does anyone know of a book or
other literature I could look at in modeling this "student" database after?
thanx
Luis Muench

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 94 09:09:47 EST
From: Christian Gingras <[e-mail]>
Subject: Dictionary on CD-ROM?

Hi netters!

I am looking for an english dictionary on CD-ROM. Here in Quebec, we can buy Le
Robert (a french dictionary) on a CD-ROM, so I suppose that such a beast exists
in english. I searched through the Macintosh Product Registry (the spring
edition) and I did not find anything.

Are you aware of such a product? Please respond to me directly (and to the net,
if you wish). I will summarize all the info I will get.

Many thanks in advance!

Christian Gingras
([e-mail])

*** Quebec City, home of Club Macintosh de Quebec...
*** More than 2000 french-speaking members!

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 23:20:46 PST
From: "Don W." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Egyptian hieroglyphs? (Q)

Can anyone put me on the trail of a font -- any type -- that
prints Egyptian hieroglyphs?

Apologies if this duplicates an earlier query; I haven't
caught up with my I-M backlog yet.

Please copy to me offlist if you have any leads.

Don W. ([e-mail])

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 23:13:38 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Fortran Structurer Anyone (Q)??

This might not be the best place to ask, but I noted with great interest
the postings of f2c and the ftnchek tools for the Mac. The ftnchek is a
static analyzer, kind of a "fortran lint". A harder task is what is called
a "structurer", that takes old awful spaghetti code and turns it into
block if's and other nice constructs. Ftnchek is public domain; so does anyone
know of a PD structure utility???

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 12:50 EST
From: Don't Panic! <[e-mail]>
Subject: Hardware Handshaking (Q)

Dear Netters,
Sorry if this is a FAQ.
I have overheard somewhere that one sometimes needs a hardware handshaking
cable for better modem communication.  Where does one find this kind of cable
(if it exists), and where would plug both ends of such a cable.  I am an
individual who is linked up to the net by dialing into a modem attached to a
server.  Would I need a hardware handshaking cable, if I find myself subject
 to frequent hang-ups?  Also my terminal emulation program has an internal
hardware handshaking setting.  Does this supplement the same requirement?
Just trying to better understand how this networking works.
Thank you in advance.
Sincerely,
[e-mail]

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Date: 12 Jan 1994 08:18:56 +0000 (U)
From: "Dees, Ted E." <[e-mail]>
Subject: How can I get the "Software Dispatch" CD-ROM?(A)

> How can I get the "Software Dispatch" CD-ROM?

The ad in the February MacUser has an order form with the address:

     Software Dispatch
     PO Box 876
     Brea, CA  92622-9903

There's no charge.  Be aware that this CD quietly installs a new extension into
the system folder and some users have reported conflicts with existing
extensions.

[e-mail]

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Date: 12 Jan 1994 23:33:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dwight Lemke at Wisconsin Oshkosh <[e-mail]>
Subject: How do I use icons from Info-Mac archives?

Date sent:  12-JAN-1994 23:31:03

>I often see icon files posted to the InfoMac archives.
>I downloaded the Rush Limbaugh icons today, but
>the file decompresses to two folders with nothing
>in them.

I don't know, sounds alright to me--a lot like Rush:
once you decode it, there's nothing there!

;-)

-Dwight

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Date: 13 Jan 1994 11:41:09 -0600
From: [e-mail] (SYSTEM)
Subject: How to get latest MACtcp

I have version 1.1.1 of MACtcp (it came with DECs PATHWORKS software).  I also
have a 2.0 to 2.0.4 upgrader.  My question...how do I get version 2.0?

Greg.

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 13:20:08 CET
From: Marco Ridoni <[e-mail]>
Subject: Internet In Israel

Does someone know of any company in Israel which provides for access to
Internet by private parties? Should someone know, does s/he have info's
like rates, fares, phone and fax numbers in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv ?
Thanks

Marco

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 16:27:24 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Christian F. Buser)
Subject: Is there a "Print later..." utility ?

Greetings,

Is there something like a "Print later"-utility or is it possible to
configure the Print Monitor accordingly? Here's a description of what
I'd like to do:

"On the road" (or far away from a Mac printer) I prepare a document,
select "Print..." and postpone it until I either can connect to a
printer or copy the print file to a diskette and print it elsewhere.

I tried with the print file (the PrintMonitor document), which I copied
on disk - but I had to edit the printer's name in the document or it would
give me a message that the specified LaserWriter could not be found.
I can't say in advance how the printer's name is - and even if I knew,
I think I could not determine a name of a non-present printer when I
decide to print - at least not with the chooser when I'm not connected.

So - what's the solution ? Preparing a PostScript file would be possible
with most applications, but not with HyperCard (and maybe others?).

Any suggestions are welcome.
                     Christian.


------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 10:39:55 -0600
From: "Bill Wing" <[e-mail]>
Subject: LaCie Policy Continued (drives are disposable)

Sorry to have kept this story hanging so long - it has been a busy
end-of-year.  To recap the story so far - my LaCie Magneto-Optical drive
went belly-up about 6 weeks out of warranty.  When I called their tech
support the word was that they had stopped offering out-of-warranty
(for-a-fee) repair services.

I wes stunned, and reported the conversation to info-mac (v11n236) along
with a plea for opinions.  Please note that it was *not* a call for a
boycott.  I simply wanted to hear from people who agreed that a company
should stand behind its products.  I heard directly from only a couple of
people, but did see a fair amount of disucssion here during the following
few days (V11n239, 242, 243).  I also received a msg from Adam Engst
wanting to turn my posting into an editorial in TidBits.  I replied to him
that I really wanted to be sure I had exhausted all possibilites of service
>From LaCie before going that route.

I have since talked further (twice) with people at LaCie, and their policy
seems fixed in stone.  The argument is that if they accurately cost the
expense of stripping a unit, returning a defective drive to the
manufacturer for repair, then re-installing the repaired drive in the unit
and shipping it back to the customer, the final cost is slightly higher
than the cost of the customer purchasing a completely new unit.  What's
worse, the guarantee from the drive manufacturer on the repaired drive
would only be for 90 days rather than one year as on a new unit.

The point I've treid to make to them is that if this is true (and I have no
reason to doubt it), then what LaCie should be doing is "remanufacturing"
drives.  Their business is based on buying boxes, power supplies, drives
and assembling them.  They don't contract this assembly work out, it is
done in-house.  Thus they could offer for-fee repair service for the cost
of dropping in a fresh-from-the-factory drive or power supply (whichever is
defective).  This *can't* be more expensive than the cost of a completely
new unit.  I have proposed this to the people I can reach by phone, and one
of the higher-ups on the board of directors.  None of my attempts to reach
anyone in authority by FAX or E-mail have been answered. Although I was
assure my FAX would be passed on to the board and my second attempt at
E-mail (on Compuserve) didn't bounce.

So, at the moment the bottom line is that LaCie wants us to view peripheral
devices as disposable items.  They (seemingly) have no plans to offer any
sort of repair service for out-of-warranty units at any cost.

I bought a Hammer 130, and much to my relief have found that it mounts and
reads all my old LaCie MO disks.

                    Bill Wing

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 20:39:27 PST
From: [e-mail] (David Sasaki)
Subject: LCD screens better for eyestrain?

 I am a graduate student doing plenty of writing and I am concerned over
 the long continuous hours spent in front of the screen.  I am wondering
 if LCD screens, such as those on PowerBooks, are any easier on the eyes
 when reading large amounts of text from the screen.  I have heard some
 anecdotal info in favor of reading on LCD screens.  On the other hand, I
 recall a review of a "book on disk" by Voyager in which the author
 complained somewhat of eyestrain while reading it on a Powerbook.

 Are their any studies that have been done?  Or any practical experience
 with particular products?  I also don't mind hearing about other
 computer platforms because I'll probably be using them sometime, too.
 Please email me and I'll summarize.
--
David Sasaki      [e-mail]   |  "Long live Dvorak!!"
           or [e-mail]  |  (the keyboard, I mean)

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 13:37:16 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Richard Lee Holbert)
Subject: Looking for a terminal emulation package

  I am looking for a text-oriented VT340 emulation package to use on the
MAC. Our people are using COMET right now and are not happy with it. SO if
anyone can help me PLEASE send mail.


Richard Lee Holbert - Support Analyst II
Stephen F. Austin University - Box 13038 S.F.A. Station
Nacogdoches, Texas 75962
work: 409-568-1341 fax: [phone]
[e-mail]

K-12 Networking Advocate, Learning New Resources, AGGIE '85, Genealogy,
Cooking/Eating, Non-Traditional Health/Medical Care, MY WIFE

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 16:53:33 +0000 (GMT)
From: Mike Brudenell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Looking for INITLoader or equivalent

Hi -

I'm trying to locate something that will let me search extra folders on a
server for extensions and control panels to load in addition to those in
the normal places in the System Folder or to resolve aliases in the
normal Extensions and Control Panels folder to a server.

I have found two things so far: INITshare (1.0) and INITLoader (1.0a7)
both dating from around 1990-91.

I can't get INITshare to do ANYTHING on my System 7.1 LC III, and
INITLoader works very erratically.  For example some INITs seem to stop
any further ones from being spotted for loading.  Eg. QuickTime 1.6.1
loads but then nothing else alphabetically afterwards is spooted on the
server.  Some other INITs exhibit the same behaviour.

Does anyone know of a new version of either of these utilities, or an
equivalent (FreeWare/ShareWare/Commercial)?

Thanks ever so!
                Mike Brudenell, University of York, UK

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 11:31:17 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Macintosh's birthday

I would like to know the DATE this month which we should be celebrating the
Mac's 10th birthday.  Does anyone know which DAY the first Macs shipped?

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 09:06:47 +0000
From: Graham Allsopp <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mirror UK IS Dealer from Hell - official

As a follow-up to my posting late last year, Mirror Technologies UK have
finally taken away their Optical drive, and actually contacted me ! - the
MD no less. This is the first time we have been contacted by Mirror UK.
Unfortunately, he didn't ring to apologise for being messed around since
late October, but rang to ask me to stop sending letters of complaint (I
have sent three, and one fax). His defence (nearest thing to an apology)
was that "Mirror UK cannot offer anywhere near the level of  customer
support that Mirror USA offers" and HE told ME "If I had been treated like
Mirror UK treated you, I certainly wouldn't buy from them again". He showed
no real concern over the way we had been treated.
You can Email me for a diary of the whole sorry affair if you want the gory
details, but in short, think long and hard about buying anything from
Mirror Technologies UK - they admit their customer support is minimalist.
We have no real quarrel with Mirror products, just the level of support. In
future, if we want Mirror products, we will try and buy direct from Mirror
USA.

Graham Allsopp, University of Sheffield, UK

------------------------------

Date: 13 Jan 1994 14:36:06 -0500
From: "JT Green" <[e-mail]>
Subject: More than 99 MB per app(R)

Tim D. Castle asks how to set the file size to >99MB.
Open a copy of the program with ResEdit. Open the size resource.
Open resource number -1. Scoll to the bottom. Change the size field
to the desired size in bytes. Close the windows and answer yes to save
changes. You can find ResEdit at ftp.apple.com.  I also noticed that
system 7.1 lets me set an app's size to more than 99MB using get info.

------------------------------

Date: 12 Jan 1994 08:37:10 +0000 (U)
From: "Dees, Ted E." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Network schedulers????? (A)

Terry L. Hartman wrote:
> I'm looking for a scheduler that will run on our Ethernet Network
> (appleshare 3.x).  The scheduler must be able to remind, prevent conflicts
> (meetings,....), be able to shedule people for a certain event then let
> them know.  We are using Microsoft Mail for our departmental mailer,
> however, it does not need to work directly with MSMail.

We use ON Technology's Meeting Maker. It provides all the features you
mention.
 We're fairly happy with it.

[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Jan 94 9:44 GMT
From: Big Nose <[e-mail]>
Subject: Optimem. What exactly does it do?

I've just read tidbits-208 including Adam's review of RAM Doubler. Just
at the end of it, he mentions that Optimem works on non MMU machines.
Two brief questions:-
1) What does Optimem do? Is it the same as RAM Doubler?
2) _Does_ it work on non MMU machines and is anyone out there using it?
   Care to share your experiences?

OK, that's five questions and four question marks and I said there would
only be two, but you get the idea. :)

I'll summarise responses later.

Regards,

Andy Law

( LAWA @ iape.afrc.ac.uk                         Big Nose in Edinburgh )

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Jan 94 08:24:40 CST
From: Akira <[e-mail]>
Subject: Pathways and 840AV

I just got my copy of PID, and there seems to be a bug in it.  The
pathway window is jittering back and forth.  I tried playing the game
with all extensions off and the same thing happens.  Is this a part of the
game?  If so it makes it pretty darn hard to play.  Suggestions?

Akira

------------------------------

Date: 13 Jan 1994 9:43:46 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: PB 145 ADB port

Dear Info-Mac readers,

1. I am looking for a small, 2.5" drive to go with my PB 145.
    I've seen one which draws power through the ADB port.
    But I understand the 145 can only supply 10 mA (!)
    What is the ADB port on the PB 145 good for?
    Does anyone know if such a drive would work on a 145?

2. I remember a company called Liberty, who advertised little hard drives.
    Can someone tell me Liberty's postal or Internet address?

Thanks for your attention.

Leon Kwong Wing<[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 08:17:25 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Thomas E. Mitchell)
Subject: PC application Availability

This is addressed to whoever may be able to offer assistance.

I am involved in Technical Documentation and normally use a Mac computer.
However, I have a client whose company uses predominantly IBM-type PCs
running MS-DOS, Windows, and, some of them, OS/2.

He would like some of the documents that I am preparing to be easily
available on the computer, not relying solely on hard-copy. However, the
documents should be "word processor" independent.

I know there is a Mac-based shareware application called "DOCMaker" that
does precisely what I need -- i.e. it provides for text entry, formatting
and graphics importing capalities, and, when the document is completed,
it saves it to a file to which specific software is attached such that the
file actually becomes an application. Thus, whenever a person with the
specific document wishes to open it, it is launched the same as any
application -- e.g. by double clicking on it -- the same as any other
application. It is not necessary to have either a specific word processor
or the original application on which the file was prepared.

To date I have not been able to locate, or even determine the existence of
any software -- shareware, freeware or commercial -- that performs the
above function on the IBM-type PC. If anyone knows of such software, or
knows anyone who knows, I would greatly appreciate having any and all
pertinent information sent to me by e-mail at the following address:

        [e-mail]

Many thanks.

Tom Mitchell
12 Whitburn Cr.,
Nepean, Ontario, Canada, K2H 5K6

[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 10:28:12 +0300
From: [e-mail] (Susan Farrell)
Subject: PhotoShop plug-in for Apple Color One Scanner?

I just bought an Apple Color One scanner, and to my amazement, PhotoShop
does not recognize it! Is there a driver or plug-in somewhere that I can
get (for free or cheap)?

thanks in advance,


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 12 Jan 1994 14:05:28 U
From: "David Thompson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: POP3/SMTP gateway for PowerTalk

A POP3/SMTP gateway for PowerTalk is available.  It works on a TCP/IP LAN
connection (sorry, no SLIP support yet).  The gateway supports standard
Macintosh file enclosure handling methods including AppleSingle-UUENCODE,
Datafork only-UUENCODE, MacBinary,  BinHex, and MIME (Multi-purpose Internet
Mail Extensions).

For more information, send e-mail to [e-mail] or anonymous ftp to
"ftp.starnine.com".

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 14:00:35 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Dieder Bylsma)
Subject: Problem & Solution: PB160 HD doesn't work in PB100

I posted this on Mac-L today, and fortunately for me, I found a solution on
my own fairly quickly. The solution was not very obvious, and so I thought
I'd share the experience and the answer with other Mac afficiandos in hopes
of preventing someone else from going through this experience.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
A wee while ago, I yelped:

>I've recently purchased a used Apple 80Mb internal HD from a friend. It worked
>great in his PB but it doesn't work great in my PB100.
>
>Yikes!
>
>I get a sad mac after the Hard Drive performs its self-tests. Sad Mac with
>error codes of 0000000F and 000000003 (there may be too many 0's there, but
>the
>last letters of the line are the only ones that are non-zero).

Some extra details: The HD spun up, and then accessed for a fraction of a
millisecond before the Sad Mac came up.

>
>Put my Connor 20 back in it, and it is a happy camper.
>Put this IBM  80 back in it, and it ain't happy at all.
>
>Someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong! I'd sure hate to be out money for
>this, and I'd sure like to get this 80Mb HD working...sure would beat a 20Mb
>HD!
>
>Please e-mail me with any suggestions or solutions ASAP!
>
>I'm almost desperate enough to go to my local high-priest of Appledom, those
>'service' centres.
>
>Ack!
>
>Dieder


Now the solution was, in hindsight, fairly straight forward.

Since it wouldn't boot off either floppy or HD and came up with the Sad Mac
code, we remembered the bypass command - cmd-shift-option-backspace that
allows the mac to boot up without so much as scanning its internal SCSI
drive/HD. This permitted a boot-up. From there, I used a driver installer
to reinstall a compatible HD driver, and ever since then, the HD and I have
been getting along just great!

Moral of the story. Don't forget that four-fingered combo to bypass the
internal HD of the Mac, and you can mount the HD.

Why was it bombing/sad mac?

Seems the HD had had previously installed MacSecurity, a driver-level
software that prevented people from booting up the HD unless the correct
password was entered. It seems that it and the PB100 didn't get along very
well (HD previously was in a PB160) and crashed. Since it crashed at such
an early stage in the boot-up sequence, it couldn't put up its System Bomb
message, and so, it put up a Sad Mac message and almost gave me a mild
heart-attack.

Hope this info helps someone else...

Dieder
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


--
     ___                                     ___
    <o,o>    Dieder Bylsma                  <o,o>
    ( v )    [e-mail]            ( v )
-----"-"-------------------------------------"-"-


------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 16:58:28 +0100
From: Mark Dols <[e-mail]>
Subject: Problem with LineLink 144e modem

This morning I received my LineLink 144e modem from
MacWarehouse, but I'm having problems getting it to work. The
carrier detect (CD) LED is on all the time, even if there's no
phone line attached. the Hayes command ATDT makes the modem
shut down. Can anyone with a LineLink modem out there help me?

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 10:41:32 +0300
From: [e-mail] (Susan Farrell)
Subject: Q650 turns itself off!

Dear Macfriends,

I have this great new Q650 with a funny problem. Twice in two weeks the
thing turned itself off! No shutdown, just CLICK. Both times the computer
had been on for ~8 hours, and I was using it to do something really
mundane, like typing text. I did not notice any dimming of the lights or
other indicators of brown-out or power flicker in the room (but it is an
old and lousy wiring system in my apt).

I have left it on unattended for ~10 hours with no problem.

Disk First Aid, Norton, MacCheck, Disinfectant all say everything is fine,
except the occasional bundle-bit problem with the 040 enabler (I replaced
it, and the new one generated the same message. Norton fixed it,
apparently)

Restarts normally afterwards.

I reinstalled the system.

I have a super heavy duty surge protector on the entire system, phone,
modem, etc.

I have a lot of extensions and control panels. Sys 7.1, cache on, 32M RAM,
virtual memory off. No extra 3rd-party boards.


Q1: Does anyone think this could be a software problem?

Q2: Should I rush it back to the shop while it's still in warranty?

Q3: Anyone else have/solve a similar problem?

TIA


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 13 Jan 1994 12:44:57 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Chris)
Subject: Quadra 605 crash ( FPU related ? )

Hi,

I've got a Quadra 605 running System 7.1 ( 8 MBytes RAM )

Sometimes when I run a CD-based program called Peter's Magic Adventure I
get a fatal error:

Floating Point Coprocessor Not Installed (RESTART)

This happens after the program has initialized (actually immediately
after selecting the language to use.)  It is not consistent, some days
it will begin to do this and nothing will help, other times it works just
fine.

The 605, I believe does not have the FPU enabled on the processor so I tried
Software FPU - no change.  I called Apple help (sat on hold for 45 minutes) -
they suggested hardware system update 2.0.1 which I installed.  Again,
no change.

Does anybody know what's happening here?  Any solutions?
Thanks in advance.

Chris Wilder-Smith
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 07:26:27 PST
From: "Jim Schenk"      <[e-mail]>
Subject: RAM Serial Driver (S)

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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 10:06:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Jim Schenk <[e-mail]>
To:
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Subject: RAM Serial Driver (S)


> I am getting the message "Trouble closing RAM serial driver" with
> MacKermit on a Mac LCIII with System 7.1.  Has anyone come across
> this problem?   What does it mean and how can I fix it?

Thanks to everyone who replied to my question.  To summarize the responses,
most everyone suggested I try the latest version of Kermit, 0.99(188),
at Sumex in the info-mac:comm folder.  I've downloaded it and will try it
out.

Thanks again.

Jim Schenk      [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Jan 94 18:22:31 CET
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Rebuilt Keyboard Source?

Ladies and Gents, the Extended keyboard on my ancient but honourable IIcx
appears to be headed for Keyboard Heaven. Despite frequent cleanings and
thorough hosings with various ozone-depleting sprays, the right shift key
is kaput, the "C" and "X" are flaky, and half the numeric keypad has gone
south. I wanted to buy a rebuilt/repaired unit that from someone who would
take my old keyboard as partial trade (recycling _is_ politically correct)
so I called Pre-Owned Electronics (POE). They were happy to do business
until they found out I'm in the US military in Europe, and they don't ship
to APO addresses (evidently it's just _too_ much trouble to ship via US
mail, although POE is more than willing to inconvenience others by having
my family ship it to me for them... <flame stops here>). Shreve Systems is
the other vendor I know but they weren't interested in a trade-in. So....
anyone know a vendor who will do keyboard trades, takes credit cards, and
is willing to support the US military member overseas? Any/all help would
be appreciated! Pete Jones

------------------------------

Date: 13 Jan 1994 15:36:09 -0800
From: "David G. Kay" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Remapping Caps Lock to Control on PowerBooks:  Truly Impossible?

Unix uses and others prefer to have the Control key easily
accessible, just to the left of the A, where the Caps Lock
key appears on most Mac keyboards.

Remapping Caps Lock to Control requires using ResEdit or
the like to change the KCHR resource in the System file.
On desktop keyboards, a further hardware modification
must be made to disable the physical locking of the Caps
Lock key itself.

On PowerBooks, however, there's a further difficulty:
While the Caps Lock key doesn't physically lock down, its
locking nature is hard-wired into the keyboard controller,
which means that even after changing the KCHR resource,
you end up with a "Control Lock" key.  If you were
actually to use it as a Control key, you'd have to tap it
again every time you lifted your finger up.  (You could
think of it as tapping again to turn off the Caps Lock
light.)

Now, I'm no Mac system hacker, but I wonder if this
situation is as intractable as it appears.  I'd welcome
the opinions of experts, even if it's only to point out
where my misconceptions are.  Doesn't the system
separately register key-down and key-up actions?  Couldn't
one, therefore, patch the system in some way so that on
every key-up action on Caps Lock, another key-down/key-up
pair get generated and processed?  Wouldn't this solve the
problem?

                          --DGK

David G. Kay
Information and Computer Science
University of California, Irvine

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 17:19:42 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Terry L. Hartman)
Subject: Robert's Rules of Order

I'm looking for an Electronic version of Robert's Rules of Order.  It can
be a HyperCard stack, text file,.........

If there is such an animal please let me know.

thanx,


Terry L. Hartman
Coordinator - Microcomputer Services
U.T. - Pan American

[e-mail] (preferred)
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Jan 94 09:05:38 PST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: SCSI Partition Map Invalid Problem


Rob Blasi writes:

>        HD Setup (7.0) doesn't recognize the drive as initialized. It can
>test it and says that the disk is either "not initialized or partition map
>invalid".
'
I used to have this problem on a weekly basis with an old
Jasmine drive I had. The solution was simple, but still makes
no sense. You must use SUMII (NOT Norton 2.0) to fix this
problem. Second, you must install the Sum Shield Init before
your drive crashes. Third, create a VIF for your drive on a
floppy. Finally, when your drive does crash with "SCSI
Partition Map Invalid" You go to Sum, mount the drive using
manual configure with the VIF you created, use quick fix,
tell it that shield is installed, and it will bring your
drive back to life.

This process DOES NOT work with Norton 2.0. I spent a
tremendous amount of time with Norton Tech Support over this,
to which I was finally told "Filesaver does not keep track of
the partition map information that Shield Does, but that
problem never occurs anyway so itUs not important"....
Right... Anyway, this use to bring my Jasmine up when Norton
& Mac Tools could do nothing to help. Incidentally, the whole
process takes about three minutes if you have a current
backup of the shield file (I have several hard drives, so it
is stored on another drive).

Finally, later on I installed Silverlining on the Jasmine
drive, and it hasn't crashed since. The Jasmine software was
the worst, and the APS software was better but not as
bulletproof as silverlining.

Joel Lingenfelter
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 11:25:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Mark London <[e-mail]>
Subject: SMTP for the MAC?

Is there any package which supports SMTP for incoming internet  mail  for  the
MAC?  Thanks.

Mark London
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Jan 94 18:35:35 MEZ
From: David Steiner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Terminal Emulator, Anyone? (Q)

Hello All You Interconnectivity Freaks!

Back a few years ago, when I was still at U Maine, I remember that we had
a 3270 terminal emulation running on our Macs. Unfortunately, I don't remember
the name of the program (or if it was any good, relatively speaking).

As much as I hate to, every now and then I have to log onto one of the
big hairy old beasts. So, I would appreciate it if anyone has a favorite
that they would like to recommend, please let me know.

Config particulars:
    Mac IIsi running System 7.0.1
    MacTCP 1.1 (soon to upgrade)
    connected to TCP/IP ethernet.

TIA

David R. Steiner, Research Assoc., Remote Sensing & GIS
ISPA-Uni. Osnabrueck     D-49364 Vechta, Germany

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 13 Jan 94 00:42 PST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: TinCan/PCTrans protocol

I'm a grad student at UCLA, and to transfer files between my Mac
and the school's mainframe, I need a program called TinCan,
which uses something called the PCTrans protocol for sending
files.  TinCan used to be a fine program, until I got a v.32bis
modem and a 68040 Mac -- it has problems with both.

Has anyone out there ever heard of PCTrans?  Is there any other
terminal program for the Mac that supports this protocol?  Or,
better yet, is there a CTB tool for it?

Thanks...

Mike
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 13:22:12 GMT
From: Michael Everson <[e-mail]>
Subject: WAVE -> SND?

What reads or creates a "wave" sound resource? What can turn it into a
"snd" resource and vice-versa? Thanks,
Michael Everson
School of Architecture, UCD; Richview, Clonskeagh; Dublin 14; E/ire
Phone: [phone]  Fax: [phone]  Home: [phone]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 08:35:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Kermit's Buddy! <[e-mail]>
Subject: WP 3.0 Patch (A)

Folks,

Tnanks for all the replies. However, the answer was go to an identical
computer and install the patch. The problem appears to be in the
personalization -- it happens that the FULL serail number was not on
(in) the program that I tried to apply the patch to. Wild huh???


-Bob Martin -- [e-mail] or [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 15:14:13 +0100
From: [e-mail] (Willem Nijenhuis)
Subject: Wrefont 3.1 (Q)

Dear netters,

Who knows where/how I can obtain the font utility Wrefont 3.1? This is a
utility for Windows with which one can convert Macintosh fonts to PC fonts
and vice versa.
Replies will be summarized to the net.

Greetings,

Willem Nijenhuis ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 10:51:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Tim Colson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Xwindows on a Macintosh

Okay guys/gals/other I have to do this properly :

I, Timothy L. Colson, freely admit to being envious of a PC (read "Windoze")
program which puts the Mac interface to shame.

The program of which I type is an Xwindows client for the PC...I can't
seem to remember the name..but it is SLICK! Looks/functions in an
IDENTICAL fashion to the SPARC10/51 which I hooked to...

MacX exists...I've tried it..(version 1.1)...it's horrible.

Is there anyone out there who makes a really slick Xwindows package????
FOR OUR MACHINES?????? Argh..Ack Ack. Droool.
Thanks All and Good Day!
Timothy Colson
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
[e-mail]       "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero."

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